- The problem
- Navistar is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2009, and 2012 IC CE school buses and certain model year 2006 through 2009, and 2011 through 2013 IC RE school buses manufactured from October 6, 2005, through April 18, 2012, and equipped with C. E. White Inc. brand flip seats.
- The risk
- When a flip seat is installed in front of another passenger seat, it is possible for the occupant of the rearward passenger seat to insert their toes and/or foot into the lower frame area of the flip seat. When a vehicle passenger occupies the flip seat, pushing the seat bottom downward to the horizontal position to sit in the seat, the occupant of the rearward seat could suffer a pinch point injury to their toes and/or foot.
- The fix
- Navistar will notify owners, and dealers will install a safety guard to prevent passengers from placing their toes or feet in the opening on the back of the subject Flip Seats, free of charge. The recall began on November 12, 2013. Owners may contact Navistar 1-800-448-7825 for more information. Navistar's number for this recall is 13511.
Vehicle safety record
2008 IC Bus Cesb Problems, complaints & recalls
Owners have filed 2 complaints about the 2008 IC Bus Cesb with NHTSA, most often about the engine & cooling (1) and the visibility & wipers (1). It is covered by 8 recalls, the latest in July 2013 for the seats. For comparison, the 2007 has 0 and the 2009 has 0.
NHTSA data checked
BFewer problems than a typical Cesb year, for its age
#370 most complained-about 2008 vehicle
- Complaints
- 2
- Recalls
- 8
- Crashes
- 0
- Fires
- 0
- Injuries
- 0
- Deaths
- 0
Most common 2008 IC Bus Cesb problems
Share of all 2 complaints. One complaint can name more than one area. Tap an area for its complaints and recalls.
2008 IC Bus Cesb recalls 8
Recall repairs are free. Your dealer fixes them whether or not you bought the car there - check your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls to see if yours is done. What to do
- The problem
- Navistar is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2011 IC school buses, models CESB, RESB, and FESB, manufactured from June 17, 2004, through October 15, 2009, equipped with I-6 engines within feature codes 12N (PL, PM, PN, PR, PS, PT, PU, PV, SA, SG, SK, SL, SM, SV, SZ, TB, UA, UB, UC, and UD). The high pressure engine oil line may develop a leak or possibly rupture.
- The risk
- A leak or rupture of the high pressure oil line could possibly result in an unexpected engine stall or may result in an engine compartment fire.
- The fix
- Navistar will notify owners, and dealers will replace the high pressure oil line free of change. The safety recall began on December 21, 2012. Owners may contact Navistar at 1-331-332-1590.
- The problem
- Navistar is recalling 1,607 my 2007 through 2009 ic besb, cesb, fesb, and resb school buses manufactured from january 4, 2006 through november 15, 2007, equipped with ricon s or k series wheelchair lifts. The anti-stow interlock may not detect the presence of a wheelchair or mobility aid user. The pressure sensing switch that detects the presence of weight on the platform was not adjusted to the necessary sensitivity level. The lift could stow even though someone or something is still on the lift which fails to comply with federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 403, "Platform lift systems for motor vehicles."
- The risk
- A lift occupant can be injured should the lift begin to stow unintentionally.
- The fix
- Navistar is working with ricon to correct the wheelchair lifts (please see 07e097). Owners may contact ricon at 1-800-322-2884 or navistar at 1-260-461-1890.
- The problem
- Navistar is recalling 1,889 ic school buses manufactured from may 4, 2005 through november 15, 2007, equipped with ricon platform style wheelchair lifts. These lifts fail to comply with the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 403, "Platform lift systems for motor vehicles." The threshold warning system may not detect the presence of a wheelchair or mobility aid user in a certain spot within the defined threshold area.
- The risk
- The user of the lift could be injured should the lift move unintentionally.
- The fix
- Navistar is working with ricon to correct the wheelchair lifts free of charge (please see 07e095). The recall began on october 1, 2008. Owners may contact ricon at 1-818-267-3000 or navistar at 1-260-461-1890.
- The problem
- International is recalling 34,993 my 2006-2008 school and transit buses and heavy duty trucks/tractors manufactured between june 1, 2006 and june 28, 2007, equipped with international dt466 or dt570 engines. The base plate of the engine oil cooler may crack allowing pressurized oil to leak into the engine compartment.
- The risk
- This condition may cause either engine shut down without warning, or in extreme cases, possible engine fire which can lead to property damage, personal injury, or death.
- The fix
- International will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge. The recall began on november 21, 2008. Owners may contact international at 800-448-7825.
- The problem
- Certain my 2007 and 2008 international school and commercial buses manufactured between january 20 and september 28, 2006, equipped with ricon wheelchair lifts . The lift inner barrier interlock switch system may not detect the presence of a passenger on the inner barrier and allow the platform to move down more than one inch below floor level while occupied which does not conform to federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 403, Platform lift systems for motor vehicles.
- The risk
- The defect involves the interlock switch system in the lift not detecting the presence of a passenger (either wheelchair or standee) on the ricon wheelchair platform lift. In the event this condition occurs during passenger operations it may be possible for the wheelchair to tip backwards onto the platform when the platform was lowered. This could result in injury to the wheelchair's occupant. Also, anyone standing on the platform could lose his or her balance and fall, resulting in injury.
- The fix
- International is working with ricon to repair the buses free of charge (please see 06e101). The recall began on july 20, 2007. Owners can contact ricon at 818-267-3012 or international at 1-800-448-7825.
- The problem
- Certain 2007 and 2008 my ic school buses manufactured between january 18, 2006, and january 17, 2007. The air supply fitting may separate from the base plate, preventing actuation air from reaching the stop arm and/or crossing arm. This condition will result in non-deployment of the stop arm and/or crossing arm during a school bus stop to pick-up or discharge passengers.
- The risk
- If the stop arm does not deploy, a child or pedestrian may be endangered by passing motorists failing to stop at a safe location. If the crossing arm does not deploy, a child or pedestrian may enter the driver's blind spot in front of the vehicle possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury or death.
- The fix
- Ic will notify owners and repair the affected stop arms. The recall began on march 2, 2007. Owners can contact ic corporation at 1-800-843-5615 or international at 1-800-448-7825.
- The problem
- Certain ic school and commercial buses manufactured between october 11, 2005, and october 31, 2006. These buses have the following safety issues: If the driver's seat is in the highest and most rear position, the back of the seat may lean against a barrier behind the seat, or against the seat back. This will prevent the seat belt from retracting which fails to conform to federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 209, Seat belt assemblies. When adjust the seat to a higher position, the driver may pull the seat past the last stop so that the seat sits on the adjusting pin, which allows the seat to teeter on top of the pin. If over-travel occurs, the upper seat pedestal tube could separate from the lower pedestal tube during vehicle operation. If the driver is sitting in the driver's seat and reaches to adjust the seat height, their weight will cause the seat to drop, which could result in their hand being pinched between the seat and the lever. The driver's seat is difficult to adjust to a higher position because of the additional weight of the all belts to seat (abts) design.
- The risk
- THIS MAY RESULT IN PERSONAL INJURY.
- The fix
- Ic will notify owners and repair the seats free of charge. The recall began on february 23, 2007. Owners may contact ic at 1-800-448-7825.
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2 complaints about the 2008 IC Bus Cesb
Newest first, as filed with NHTSA by owners.
This vehicle has an international dt466 egr motor. While driving down the road during the morning route at 55 mph, the driver stated that the vehicle suddenly started smoking from underneath the hood and it immediately shut down on her. This left the bus full of kids stranded on the side of the road as far onto the shoulder as the driver could coast. The cause was a blown high pressure oil line which comes from the high pressure oil pump and leads to the high pressure oil rail.
Owner operator of school bus states that four (upper-lower-right-left) dual pane door windows have fogged due to water entry between the panes. Owner has removed the panes in an attempt to correct and found that (at least one of) the panes had completely separated from the pane "sandwich." Owner was unable to remove coating from the glass with solvents, etc. This owner is part of a group of eight purchasers who purchased a portion of "on-site" inventory of busses which were all equipped with the same glass...
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feature (i.E. Purchasers did not specify this option). Owner of a related vehicle previously filed voq 10416533. ..Updated 10/19/11 *bf the consumer stated he was unable to see children approaching the bus from the rear, due to the fogged glass. 01/23/12
IC Bus Cesb: every year compared
All Cesb years2008 IC Bus Cesb vs rivals
| Vehicle | Complaints | Recalls | Grade | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 IC Bus Cesb | 2 | 8 | B | |
| 2008 IC Bus CE | 4 | 13 | D | Compare |
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Questions about the 2008 IC Bus Cesb
Does the 2008 IC Bus Cesb have any recalls?
Yes - NHTSA lists 8 recalls for the 2008 IC Bus Cesb: seats (July 2013); engine and engine cooling (September 2012); equipment adaptive / mobility (August 2008); equipment adaptive / mobility (August 2008) and more. Recall repairs are free at any authorized dealer. Enter your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls to see whether yours has been fixed.
What are the most common problems with the 2008 IC Bus Cesb?
By the complaints owners filed with NHTSA, the most common problem areas are the engine & cooling (1), visibility & wipers (1).
How many complaints has the 2008 IC Bus Cesb had?
2 complaints have been filed with NHTSA, the first on September 9, 2011 and the latest on April 9, 2012. Of these, 0 describe a crash and 0 a fire, and together they report 0 injuries and 0 deaths.
Is the 2008 IC Bus Cesb a reliable vehicle?
Its Safety Index is 66 out of 100 (grade B: fewer problems than a typical IC Bus Cesb year, for its age). The index weighs complaints, crashes, fires, injuries, deaths and recalls against how long the vehicle has been on the road, compared with the same model's other years. It is not a measure of every repair - read the complaints and owner experiences, and have any used vehicle inspected before you buy.
Which IC Bus Cesb years have the most complaints?
2022 (5), 2021 (3), 2006 (2). See every IC Bus Cesb year compared.
What should I do if my 2008 IC Bus Cesb has a problem?
If it is a safety problem, stop driving it if it is unsafe and contact your dealer. Report it to NHTSA at nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem - enough reports start investigations and recalls - and share your experience here so other owners know what to look for.
Source: U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) complaints and recalls, checked . Complaints are owners' own reports and are not verified. How we use the data