- The problem
- Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 and 2009 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 and saf-t-liner hdx school buses and fccc b2 bus chassis used in saf-t-liner c2 school buses manufactured from august 18, 2006, through july 7, 2010, equipped with epa 2007 mbe 900 detroit diesel engines. Engine software may not react properly to certain aftermarket treatment device fault codes. The software may unnecessarily shutdown a vehicle or may fail to shutdown a vehicle with an aftermarket device over-temp fault.
- The risk
- Unexpected shutdown of a vehicle may increase the risk of a crash. Overheating of the aftertreatment device without engine shutdown may result in a fire.
- The fix
- Daimler trucks will notify owners and repairs will be performed by detroit diesel free of charge. The safety recall began on march 25, 2011. Owners may contact daimler trucks at 1-800-547-0712. This safety recall campaign is an expansion of a previous recall (please see 10v-468).
Vehicle safety record
2008 Fccc B2 Problems, complaints & recalls
No owner complaints about the 2008 Fccc B2 have been filed with NHTSA. It is covered by 9 recalls, the latest in March 2011 for the engine and engine cooling.
NHTSA data checked
DMore problems than a typical B2 year, for its age
- Complaints
- 0
- Recalls
- 9
- Crashes
- 0
- Fires
- 0
- Injuries
- 0
- Deaths
- 0
2008 Fccc B2 recalls 9
Recall repairs are free. Your dealer fixes them whether or not you bought the car there - check your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls to see if yours is done. What to do
- The problem
- Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2011 fccc b2 106 ch and thomas built saf-t-liner c2 and hdx school buses manufactured from september 5, 2006 through june 30, 2010, equipped with specific mbe900 epa04 and epa07 model engines. The intake air grid heater may short circuit and fail due to excessive internal temperatures.
- The risk
- A short circuited grid heater could result in a vehicle fire and injury to vehicle occupants.
- The fix
- Daimler trucks will notify owners and dealers will repair the buses free of charge. Repairs will be performed by detroit diesel corporation authorized repair facilities. The safety recall is expected to begin on or about july 29, 2011. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
- The problem
- Dtna is recalling certain model year 2005 through 2011 freightliner business class c2, fccc b2 chassis, s2 chassis, and mc chassis manufactured beginning january 19, 2005 through april 16, 2010. The stop lamps may be intermittent during light brake applications.
- The risk
- The stop lamps may not properly indicate that the service brakes are applied which may lead to a crash without warning.
- The fix
- Dtna will notify owners and repairs will be performed by dtna dealerships free of charge. The safety recall began on may 27, 2011. Owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
- The problem
- Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2010 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses and fccc b2 chassis manufactured from october 1, 2007 through august 10, 2009, equipped with cummins isb cm2150 j1939/1587 engine control unit, bosch hydraulic pin-slide front brakes, and webasto 17k btu coolant heater. The front right hand crossover brake line may have been secured using shorter offset than specified clamps potentially allowing the brake line to rub on the surrounding components. This may lead to a brake fluid leak.
- The risk
- Continued contact between the brake line and the surrounding components may lead to a loss of brake fluid and reduce braking performance potentially resulting in a vehicle crash.
- The fix
- Daimler trucks will notify owners. Dealers will inspect the units and clamps with shorter offset than specified will be replaced with longer offset clamps. Any brake lines found to be damaged will be replaced. Repairs will be done free of charge. The safety recall began on april 23, 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
- The problem
- Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2011 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses and fccc b2 chassis manufactured from june 1, 2007 through september 28, 2009. Fasteners used to connect the rear suspension spring to the suspension hanger bracket may not have been torqued to specification. Under torqued fasteners may become loose and potentially fall out.
- The risk
- Loose or missing fasteners may allow the rear suspension to become misaligned, increasing the risk of a crash.
- The fix
- Dealers will inspect and adjust the fasteners as required. Damaged fasteners will be replaced. Repairs will be made free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during february 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
- The problem
- Daimler trucks is recalling 15,686 my 2005 through 2009 fccc and thomas built school and transit buses manufactured between march 2005 and may 2008 equipped with a certain brake lamp air pressure switch. The contacts in the pressure switch for the low current brake lamp signal to the chassis ecu may have become contaminated by silicone during assembly causing insulating deposits to build up over time preventing the brake lamps from operating.
- The risk
- Inoperative brake lamps would not provide a signal to following drivers that the brakes are applied and a crash may occur.
- The fix
- Daimler trucks will notify owners and dealers will replace the pressure switch free of charge. The recall is expected to begin on or about march 18, 2009. Owners may contact daimler trucks at 1-800-547-0712 or thomas built buses at 1-336-889-4871.
- The problem
- Daimler trucks is recalling 28,764 my 2001 through 2008 fccc b2 and fs65 school bus chassis, fccc fb65 conventional buses, and sterling acterra, freightliner fln, and business class m2 heavy trucks, built from january 26, 2000, through march 24, 2008, manufactured with arvinmeritor or axle alliance company 6,000 through 8,000 pound front axles utilizing a four piece spindle-nut set. These axle assemblies may have been produced with a thin spindle nut which may lead to incorrect end play, cone spin, excessive heat, degradation of lubrication, wear of the spindle nut and bearing journal, oil contamination with metal shavings, and premature bearing failure.
- The risk
- Continued operation may lead to wheel separation and possibly a vehicle crash.
- The fix
- Daimler trucks will notify owners and will repair the vehicles free of charge. The recall began on january 8, 2009. Owners may contact daimler trucks at 1-800-547-0712.
- The problem
- Freightliner is recalling certain school bus chassis, heavy trucks, van chassis, rv motorhome chassis manufactured from january 5 to may 17, 2007, equipped with axle alliance company (aac) front axles. During the front axle assembly, the fasteners that attach the steering arm or tie rod arms to the spindle may be over or under tightened.
- The risk
- Incorrectly tightened steering arm fasteners may fatigue and fracture which could cause a crash without warning.
- The fix
- Thomas built will notify owners, inspect the fasteners, and replace the steering arm if necessary. The recall began on december 21, 2007. Owners can contact freightliner at 1-800-547-0712.
- The problem
- Certain freightliner school bus chassis, heavy trucks, and thomas built school buses manufactured between july 2002 and july 3, 2007, equipped with bendix sr-7 spring brake control valves. The parker scv brass 90 degree single check valves (scv) which attach to the supply port of a bendix sr-7 spring brake modulating valve can break apart. Pieces of the parker scv can become lodged inside the sr-7 spring brake modulating valve, potentially causing either leakage out of the sr-7 valve or preventing air from properly exhausting from the sr-7 valve. Also, due to a manufacturing defect in the internal rubber check valve inside the sr-7 spring brake modulating valves, the valves can become deformed and not seat properly.
- The risk
- These conditions could either result in leakage and cause a delay in the application of the spring brake without warning or possibly lead to unintended vehicle rollaway or brake drag which could result in a vehicle crash, personal injury, or death.
- The fix
- Freightliner will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge. The recall began on january 11, 2008 to freightliner, sterling, and freightliner custom chassis owners; to thomas built bus owners on february 1, 2008. Owners can contact freightliner at 1-800-547-0712.
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Fccc B2: every year compared
All B2 years2008 Fccc B2 vs rivals
| Vehicle | Complaints | Recalls | Grade | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 Fccc B2 | 0 | 9 | D | |
| 2008 Fccc MT 45 | 1 | 1 | D | Compare |
| 2008 Fccc XCR | 1 | 1 | A | Compare |
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Questions about the 2008 Fccc B2
Does the 2008 Fccc B2 have any recalls?
Yes - NHTSA lists 9 recalls for the 2008 Fccc B2: engine and engine cooling (March 2011); engine and engine cooling (July 2010); switch (April 2010); service brakes, hydraulic (December 2009) and more. Recall repairs are free at any authorized dealer. Enter your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls to see whether yours has been fixed.
How many complaints has the 2008 Fccc B2 had?
None have been filed with NHTSA so far.
Is the 2008 Fccc B2 a reliable vehicle?
Its Safety Index is 29 out of 100 (grade D: more problems than a typical Fccc B2 year, for its age). The index weighs complaints, crashes, fires, injuries, deaths and recalls against how long the vehicle has been on the road, compared with the same model's other years. It is not a measure of every repair - read the complaints and owner experiences, and have any used vehicle inspected before you buy.
What should I do if my 2008 Fccc B2 has a problem?
If it is a safety problem, stop driving it if it is unsafe and contact your dealer. Report it to NHTSA at nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem - enough reports start investigations and recalls - and share your experience here so other owners know what to look for.
Source: U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) complaints and recalls, checked . Complaints are owners' own reports and are not verified. How we use the data