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2007 Pierce Impel Problems, complaints & recalls

Owners have filed 3 complaints about the 2007 Pierce Impel with NHTSA, most often about the steering (3) and the suspension (3). It is covered by 12 recalls, the latest in January 2019 for the software. For comparison, the 2006 has 0 and the 2008 has 1.

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FFar more problems than a typical Impel year, for its age

#321 most complained-about 2007 vehicle

Complaints
3
Recalls
12
Crashes
0
Fires
0
Injuries
0
Deaths
0

Most common 2007 Pierce Impel problems

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2007 Pierce Impel recalls 12

Recall repairs are free. Your dealer fixes them whether or not you bought the car there - check your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls to see if yours is done. What to do

Electrical system: software

19V022000994 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2004-2018 Arrow XT, Dash, Enforcer, Impel, Quantum and Velocity aerial vehicles. The aerial device may unexpectedly rotate to the right when the ladder is being extended.
The risk
If the aerial device moves in an unexpected direction, the ladder may contact an object, such as a building or an electrical wire, increasing the risk of injury.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will reprogram the aerial control module, free of charge. The recall began February 28, 2019. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1-888-974-3723. Pierce's number for this recall is 74B295.

Structure

18V46300017 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2007-2017 Pierce Velocity, Impel, Arrow-XT, Quantum, and Enforcer emergency response vehicles equipped with 75ft aerial devices with a 21 inch or 28 inch limited retraction bracket. The bracket on the aerial device may detach from the aerial and fall to the ground.
The risk
If the bracket falls, it could strike a person below.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will install additional hardware to mount the limited retraction bracket, free of charge. The recall began on August 22, 2018. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1-888-974-3723. Pierce's number for this recall is 74B290.

Suspension: upper ball joint

15V615000910 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain model year 2006-2007 Arrow XT, Dash, Enforcer, Lance, Impel, and Quantum vehicles manufactured January 1, 2006, to March 31, 2007. In the affected vehicles, tears in the ball joint protective boots may result in contamination of the ball joints.
The risk
The contamination may cause premature ball joint failure and the wheel to disengage from the control arm, increasing the risk of a vehicle crash.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the affected vehicles for torn ball joint boots. Pierce will also evaluate the ball joint wear. Ball joints with an unexpected level of wear will be replaced. These repairs will be performed free of charge. The recall began on December 10, 2015. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1-888-974-3723. Pierce's number for this recall is 74B267.

Structure: door

13V2140002,006 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce Manufacturing Inc. (Pierce) is recalling certain model year 2007-2013 Velocity, Impel, and Dash CF emergency vehicles manufactured June 6, 2007, through May 31, 2013. The springs in the outer door handles are not of sufficient stiffness to prevent inadvertent door opening in certain impacts. Thus, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 206, "Door Locks and Door Retention Components."
The risk
In the event of a crash, the weak springs may allow the door to open and possibly fail to contain emergency personnel or equipment, increasing the risk of injury.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will replace the door handle spring with a stiffer one, free of charge. Owners may contact Pierce at 1-920-832-3000. The recall began on June 28, 2013. Pierce's recall number is 74B242.

Latches / locks / linkages

13V0620001,275 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2007-2010 Velocity and Impel fire trucks manufactured from June 6, 2007, through October 30, 2010. The springs inside the inner door handles may allow the door to open inadvertently.
The risk
If the door inadvertently opens while the vehicle is in motion, the occupants may fall out and suffer personal injury.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will replace the inner door handles, free of charge. The recall began during May 2013. Owners may contact Pierce at 1-920-832-3000.

Steering

10V4230002,652 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling certain model year 1998 through 2008 arrow xt, lance, velocity, enforcer, impel, and dash custom fire apparatus vehicles manufactured from may 30, 1998 through november 25, 2008. The steering gear bracket may fracture and break. If this occurs the steering gear may detach from the vehicle.
The risk
Detachment of the steering gear will result in a loss of steering control that could cause a crash.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners and dealers will install a new steering gear mounting bracket free of charge. The safety recall began on october 12, 2010. Owners are being instructed to inspect the steering gear bracket prior to each trip. The remedy to repair this defect is expected to begin no earlier the january 31, 2011. Owners may contact pierce at 1-888-974-3723.

Service brakes: caliper

10V31700045 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2010 arrow xt, dash, enforcer, impel, quantum, and velocity fire trucks manufactured from october 11, 2006 through june 16, 2010 and equipped with meritor wabco ex225 rear disc brakes and onspot automatic tire chains. The meritor wabco ex225 rear disc brake caliper may interfere with the onspot automatic tire chain brackets. This interference may restrict the caliper from full movement.
The risk
If this interference occurs, braking performance may be reduced without warning and a crash may occur.
The fix
Dealers will install new automatic tire chain brackets. The new brackets provide additional clearance for the full actuation of the disc brake calipers. This service will be performed free of charge. The safety recall began in july 2010. Owners may contact pierce at 1-920-832-3000.

Structure: bumpers

10V30000025 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2003 through 2009 custom contender, dash, enforcer, impel, lance saber, and velocity fire trucks manufactured from february 20, 2003, through march 27, 2009. These trucks may be equipped with drop-down fire hose trays mounted under the front bumper. The hose tray latch may accidentally open while the vehicle is in motion.
The risk
If this occurs the fire hose may drop to the roadway without warning. Potential injury to people and property may occur. The sudden hose deployment may also distract drivers trying to avoid the hose and a crash may occur.
The fix
A new and improved latch design has been developed and a new hose box incorporating the new latch will be installed free of charge. The safety recall began on october 4, 2010. Owner may contact pierce at 1-920-832-3000.

Air bags: curtain

09V34100028 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2009 fire trucks equipped with side-roll protection systems. The sensor designed to detect vehicle roll can malfunction resulting in an inadvertent deployment of the protection system.
The risk
Inadvertent deployment of the side-roll protection system could result in a vehicle crash or injury to an out of position occupant.
The fix
Pierce will notify owners and the vehicles will be repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on august 31, 2009. Owners may contact pierce toll-free at 1-888-974-3723.

Electrical system: 12v / 24v / 48v battery

09V105000167 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling 167 my 2007-2008 velocity and impel fire trucks. A battery box is positioned on both sides of the chassis frame directly under the cab. Cab interference may occur with the positive battery post and the aluminum cab floor substructure.
The risk
If metal-to-metal contact were to happen, an electrical arcing between the cab and battery could occur increasing the risk of electrical short circuit and a fire.
The fix
Owners will receive a remedy kit along with instructions and should inspect the positive battery posts to make sure the protective caps have not worn away, if contact with the cab has occurred, replace the battery post protective caps. This remedy will be free of charge. The recall began on april 6, 2009. Owners may contact pierce at 1-888-974-3723.

Service brakes: caliper

08V59800015 vehicles affected

The problem
Pierce is recalling 15 my 2007-2008 dash, enforcer, impel, quantum and velocity fire trucks equipped with arvinmeritor rear disc brakes and hendrickson firemaax suspension. Interference with the brake caliper adjuster bolt sleeve and the suspension beam may occur. This interference may occur if the right hand and left hand brake components were assembled on the wrong side of the axle. The adjuster bolt is designed to rotate as the brake pads wear. If the sleeve becomes damaged, the sleeve may prevent the adjuster from rotating.
The risk
If the adjuster can not rotate, brake performance may be compromised and a crash may occur.
The fix
Dealers will adjust the bolt sleeve and the proper components free of charge. All owners have been notified by arvinmeritor.

Steering: shaft pitman

08V02000022 vehicles affected

The problem
On certain fire trucks equipped with trw steering gears, models tas85 and rcs85, these steering gears contain potentially defective sector shafts with an incorrect gear tooth which may interfere with the rack-piston teeth, resulting in a stick or bind condition.
The risk
This condition has the potential to cause the steering gear to stall and restrict the steering turning angle of the vehicle which could result in a vehicle crash.
The fix
Pierce is working with trw to replace the defective steering gear (please see 07e101). The recall began on january 11, 2008. Owners ontact trw at 765-429-1768 or pierce at 920-832-3249.

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3 complaints about the 2007 Pierce Impel

Newest first, as filed with NHTSA by owners.

SteeringSuspension

Ref: nhtsa #15v615000 voq #10671053 1/8/15 we filed a complaint that our '07 pierce impel fire truck had a steering issue, operator did not feel in control, and mechanics found ball joints failed. There is a 910 pierce fire truck recall that reference our complaint. The recall covers 06/07 arrow, quantum, dash, lance, and enforcer. How can we file the complaint on a pierce impel, send failed ball joints, and then not have the complaint truck covered in the recall? We sent failed ball joints to nhtsa. Most of...

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the ball joints sent did not have boot failures, the ball joints were locked-up, galled, and coatings missing. The tak4 suspension is an assembly which includes the ball joints. When a pierce fire truck is built, the tak4 assembly is taken and bolted under that chassis, it is adjusted to the truck weight. If pierce claims in their 910 truck recall that the ball joint boots could rip/tear on the models listed for 06/07, how can the same boots not rip on impel, velocity, or other models with tak4 in the 06/07 model year? One step further, the ball joint boots that pierce is claiming rips/tears is the same boot used on the tak4 suspension from 04 to 09. Why are these boots not being recalled? Is pierce allowed to base their recall solely on warranty records? That would be one or possibly two years. After the warranty period or denied claim, there is no record of failure. Research how many replacement ball joints, boots, and control arms have been sold by pierce! Many of these issues have been ignored by pierce and left for the operators of the trucks to correct and pay for. Straight axle front end suspension trucks have given many years of service with no issues; the tak4 is not reliable in comparison. There have been trucks with wheel off events and trucks that drivers report not feeling in control of. These ball joint recalls should be led by the nhtsa.

Filed Incident Steering · SuspensionNHTSA 10806685
SteeringSuspension

3/7/15, This fire truck had steering issues. The crew was returning from a fire call. The crew called the on-call technician and reported the truck was hard to drive, hard to control, and not safe. The technician test drove and agreed with the driver. The ill steering truck was taken out of service. (History with this truck, ball joints were inspected on month prior to this incident. The ball joints were inspected with a pierce technician, it was found that two ball joints were just out of spec. The truck was left...

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in service after discussing the findings with the pierce tech. He felt that it needs to be scheduled for replacement, but were not bad enough that the ball joint would fail and come apart. We already had two trucks out of service with failed ball joints. If we did not have the two trucks out of service, we would have started the repairs right away. This truck also went back to the dealer shortly after delivery in 2008. They replaced ball joints/components due to hard to drive complaints). 3/9/15 The ball joints were removed on this ill steering truck, we thought we were going to find excessive play between the ball and the socket of the ball joint. We also found that the passenger side lower ball joint was rotating inside the control arm, the upper ball joint thrush washer had the alignment dowels sheared and was rotating with the ball of the joint, and the passenger side lower ball joint shims were damaged, (possibly rotating). Pictures were attached of the upper thrust washer. Two control arms were not able to be reused, so we had to replace at least two control arms. Since we were going to have to replace two control arms that now come with the new style ball joint, we decided to replace all four control arms. This way they are the newest design ball joint. This is not just a ball joint failure. The control arms are also being damaged. *Tr

Filed Incident Steering · SuspensionNHTSA 10703171
SteeringSuspension

The driver of the fire truck reported that the truck was not steering correctly driving down the road. The truck was brought to martin county fire rescue fleet services shop. It was confirmed there was an issue with the tak4 steering system, ball joints. The ball joints were removed from the truck and found that the ball joint lube for life coating was breaking away from the ball joint caps, there was excessive play in the ball joint, gouges in the metal on the ball joint, and one ball joint was turning inside the...

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control arm instead of its own cup. This truck had ball joint issues at the date of delivery and has had tire wear issues the entire time it has been is service. Multiple reports have been made to the pierce dealer and pierce fire truck corporation in reference to our four impel truck's tire wear and drivability. During a meeting at the pierce factory, pierce engineers reported to us that they would upgrade our tak4 ball joints with a new design and shim the camber angle to improve our drivability and tire wear. To date pierce has not followed through on their upgrade promise. At this point our shop has had to purchase and install the upgraded design ball joints and control arms in this truck. We have four other trucks with tak4 suspension that have these ball joints. Since the repair on this truck we have two more trucks with failed ball joints, they are in worse condition than the ball joints described above. We are aware of the current tak4 recall that involves 135 trucks and feel our trucks should be included. The tak4 front ball joints that do not have the upgraded ball joints should be recalled. We should not have been responsible for the cost of these repairs. I have contacted our neighboring county and they also have tak4 suspension with the same ball joint failures. [[redacted]], martin county fire rescue. Information redacted pursuant to the freedom of information act (foia), 5 u.S.C. 552(B)(6)*tr

Filed Incident Steering · SuspensionNHTSA 10671053

Pierce Impel: every year compared

YearComplaintsRecallsCrashesFiresTop problemGrade
20110800-D
20100900-D
200901300-F
200811500Driver assistanceF
200731200SteeringF
20060500-C
20050400-B
20040300-B
20030200-A
All Impel years

2007 Pierce Impel vs rivals

VehicleComplaintsRecallsCrashesGrade
2007 Pierce Impel3120F
2007 Pierce Dash1130FCompare
2007 Pierce Enforcer1110CCompare

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Questions about the 2007 Pierce Impel

Does the 2007 Pierce Impel have any recalls?

Yes - NHTSA lists 12 recalls for the 2007 Pierce Impel: software (January 2019); structure (July 2018); upper ball joint (October 2015); door (May 2013) and more. Recall repairs are free at any authorized dealer. Enter your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls to see whether yours has been fixed.

What are the most common problems with the 2007 Pierce Impel?

By the complaints owners filed with NHTSA, the most common problem areas are the steering (3), suspension (3).

How many complaints has the 2007 Pierce Impel had?

3 complaints have been filed with NHTSA, the first on January 8, 2015 and the latest on November 25, 2015. Of these, 0 describe a crash and 0 a fire, and together they report 0 injuries and 0 deaths.

Is the 2007 Pierce Impel a reliable vehicle?

Its Safety Index is 24 out of 100 (grade F: far more problems than a typical Pierce Impel year, for its age). The index weighs complaints, crashes, fires, injuries, deaths and recalls against how long the vehicle has been on the road, compared with the same model's other years. It is not a measure of every repair - read the complaints and owner experiences, and have any used vehicle inspected before you buy.

Which Pierce Impel years have the most complaints?
What should I do if my 2007 Pierce Impel has a problem?

If it is a safety problem, stop driving it if it is unsafe and contact your dealer. Report it to NHTSA at nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem - enough reports start investigations and recalls - and share your experience here so other owners know what to look for.

Source: U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) complaints and recalls, checked . Complaints are owners' own reports and are not verified. How we use the data

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